影音使团进一步回应美考古学者之质疑（12月10日消息）

影音使团进一步回应
美考古学者之质疑
（12月10日消息）

时代论坛 / 2010年12月10日

　　影音使团属下的「挪亚方舟国际事工」（NAMI）发布一份英语声明，进一步回应美国考古学者Dr. Randell Price及Dr. Don Patton的指控。全文可【按此】浏览下载。

　　声明强调NAMI相信自己找到的巨大木结构是方舟遗骸，但同意需要更多科学研究去证实。NAMI对Price及Patton大致有五点回应：

一、根据两人提供的相片和卫星定位座标，NAMI指两人发现的地方并非NAMI发现木结构的遗址，因此两人提出的所有相关证据全属错误。

二、NAMI质疑向两人提供资料的库尔德人的可信性。

三、NAMI质疑Dr Don Patton诚信，列出十五项资料指他曾牵涉学术造假。

四、由于NAMI与另一机构达成研究协议，因此要对木结构遗址的确实座标保密，现阶段不能公布。

五、NAMI未有公布研究结果的时间表，因为考古研究需要长时间进行。

（www.christiantimes.org.hk，时代论坛每日快拍，2010.12.10）

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Hin / 2010-12-16 18:14:24

Where is the movie and where is the statement?

MEDIA did announced that they will produce part II of "The Search of the lost Ark". At first, they said it will be out in September, nothing happened; then, they said it will be out in December, where is it?

They claimed so many things but they never came true and there is no further explanation. I think that is a sign that they are hitting some brick walls.

Once again, no one is against out reaching to the non-Christians; no one is against the effort to search for the remains of the ARK, we are only against the principles and the behavior of MEDIA.

Someone said, time can tell, well, MEDIA has been telling by time for 7 years already, the question is can we afford to let them continue to "buy" time and trying to prove something that they couldn't. Time is expensive and indeed it is in the past 7 years.

If MEDIA can give the public a clear and honest statement of how much they have collected for this search and how they have spend in this search, that will be great. But, they must have an external auditor to audit their statement before they release it because they are too good in presenting false information and conclusion in the past.

Can they do that? We have been asking in the past years but nothing happened. Is that a problem for a charitable organization? They have a statement but a very general and mixed one. We need a separate and clean statement about this project. Can they do that? That is also the reason for their emergency appeal again and again and again in the past years (not months). Isn't that a problem?

Hin / 2010-12-11 19:01:11

Thanks Jennifer

I know that I am only one person but I still try to do and say what I could. I have done many other things besides posting my comments here.

In addition, I don't think I am alone, there are other voices and efforts besides mine. I am just doing my part.

As I am reading the book of Isaiah, the Israelites won't listen to God but God still send forth His prophets to give them His messages. I am not saying I am a prophet but I think I still should say what I believe just like the MEDIA is claiming what they believe.

I don't think the law suit will actually happen, defammation law suit is not easy to file nor to win. They are using this to lead the public to believe that they are so right to the extent that they are willing to take this to court. Just watch and you will see. I don't know whether you know about the Gospel Herald case, it is similar.

I have said before that they are blowing a balloon and it will blow up sooner or later, there will be damage and I just hope that by our effort, the damage will be minimal or being reduced, even by 1%, I think we still should continue to do our part.

Recently, I heard that the team of MEDIA went to Toronto to share but there are only 7 people who showed up. I am not joyful but happy to see that there are still cities that have certain discernment and not just follow and believe them blindly. Way to go, Toronto!

Jennifer Law / 2010-12-11 15:44:11

Hin: You are one, but they are many

Hin, this "thing" (sorry for being ambiguous here...but I do take their "legal action" threat seriously...) has been going on for almost a decade now, and you have been following it and voicing out your concerns along the way. I can understand your tiredness.

You are just by yourself, but "they" are many, and many more are joining "their" side along the way. I think, this is no longer merely a matter of "true or false"; this "thing" has become something that is "too big to fail", at least within the Christian circle I think.

From another perspective, think about the "domino effect" on Christians and the Church, if this "thing" do "fail" one day? Maybe, the "war" would be won, but the "city" would be lost? Of course, that would be the price to pay for letting this "thing" grows too big to fail in the first place...

Hin / 2010-12-11 08:14:13

I am getting tired to respond...

Wow, they are using English, does that mean they are declaring against Dr. Price and Dr. Patton?

After reading their so-called "defense", I really don't know whether I should respond or not.

I think we can list more than 15 points about the integrity of MEDIA too, will that make the discovery more true or less true?

They only stated their comments and conclusions but there are no support at all. They can say that they believe this and that but at least they need to show something or write something that can back up their comments and conclusions. I couldn't find them.

If they said that it takes time, then, don't jump to conclusion so fast, take your time!

3715 / 2010-12-10 19:02:58

只懂挑骨頭

NAMI質疑Dr Don Patton誠信，列出十五項資料指他曾牽涉學術造假。
其他鬼都多人唔講, 淨係識搵Donald Patton. 影音紅人梁某, 其實用過唔少呢種偽科學, 造假科學來講聚會啦, 又唔見影音果時扮專業？虛偽到出汁。

影音的同工,從巴比倫出來吧。

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