第一○七七期的《时代论坛》的头版专题报道，美国大使命中心会长王永信牧师在看过《基督日报》事件独立调查团调查结果报告后，表示很认同报告，特别是信仰方面。他希望华人教会以后能加倍小心。
一直关注事件的王永信在接受《时代论坛》长途电话访问时表示，调查团实在劳苦功高，他为此感谢神。王永信说，报告对华人教会很有帮助，世界各地的华人教会都在注意。他希望报告能给更多北美教牧同工知道。
王永信在看过报告后表示，他很认同报告，特别是信仰方面。他希望华人教会以后能加倍小心，因为在末世时代，不符圣经的教导和团体会愈来愈多。他特别以之提醒传道人，包括他自己。王永信说，三年多前自己也曾应邀担任《基督日报》美国顾问团的名誉主席，及后脱离。当时他见很多同工做顾问，都很担心。现在很多同工已辞任，他也为此感谢主。
（http://www.christiantimes.org.hk，2008.4.19）
To Chum: Avoid making assumptions
Try to stay away from making assumptions, look at all the assumptions that you have made so far:
1. No evangelical leader will assoicate with me.
2. I didn't have a good network.
3. I am using Rev. Wang as a tool for my evil plot (meaning I have an evil plot).
4. I didn't talk to any pastors about this.
(I am not saying that the above statement are true or false but just want to point out that you are making those statement out of the blue, you jump too fast)
Why make so many assumptions? There are also words that are really too strong or inappropriate but that is OK, they are irrelevant at all.
To Cham: Let me narrow it down for you
Can you simply tell me what does Rev. Wang meant when it said 美國大使命中心會長王永信牧師在看過《基督日報》事件獨立調查團調查結果報告後，表示很認同報告.
Do you know the meaning of 認同? Do you know that GH has issued two legal letters to IIC? Do you know what that means when Rev. Wang said that he "accepts" or "identifies" or "buys" what was said in the report?
Will this be narrow enough for you to respond?
To Cham: I already did, give me another one
I already did went to more than one pastor in the past months. What I need is the answer from you? You didn't even answer one of my questions. Looks like you don't want to answer at all.Hin, I've given you the best answer!
Your behavior only makes the others feel you are best meditator of Rev. Wang. So why do you need to ask help from me!
And if you really don't know, no need to ask a small potato like me. I've given you the best answer to all your questions. Go to your church pastors and deacons, they will help you for sure!
To Cham: you never answer my questions?
You never answer my questions, but if you couldn't, that is fine. We shouldn't jam this forum so much.Hin, sure! Take it!
Don't you attend church? If you do, then ask to your pastors and your deacons. They will help you to fix your broken attenna for sure!
So you owe me this valuable hint!
To Cham: I need your help
May you help me to understand what Rev. Thomas Wang meant when he said that he identified with the report from the IIC? Why did he resigned from his position as the honoary advisor for GH? Why did he worry when other Christian leaders became advisors for GH? Why is he glad when he knew that those Christian leaders resigned as advisors of GH?
What antenna did you use to judge that some of the news are false in this forum? Do you mean the one from Rev. Thomas Wang in last November? If someone made this up, it is easy to clarify, just call him and then let the public know. If a false report has been released by Christian Times, I wonder why would Rev. Wang accept their interview now? Are you saying that this one is also false? How do you know?
Thanks so much for your help.
To Cham: may I use your antenna
If you have the antenna that I don't have, please let me know what is the meaning of the recent statements by Rev. Thomas Wang in the telephone interview.
Thanks for letting me use your antenna.
Hin, don't speak what you don't know!
Why you kept on trying to ruin Rev. Wang? If you have your own opinion, reveal it but don't misquote from him.
Don't speak what you don't really know. It's so evil of you to use the Rev. Wang as your tool for your plot.
To Cham: You make your judgement yourself
Here are the two news releases for you:
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Hin, you are so much isolated!
Sure, I did read that false news released on this forum. However, it seems that only you till now don't know what has really happened.
You're so much sturbbon and isolated. If you are wise enough and have a good network, you should have already know the GH's news was released under the instruction and confirmation by Rev. Wang. That is already acknowledged widely.
Seems only you are living on the island without a good antenna to update you. Then you should try harder to catch the signal so that you might not be outdated.
To Cham
Have you read the news release of GH after they paid a visit to Rev. Wang and then the news release from Rev. Wang himself? If you haven't, try to find it and read it and then judge for yourself. I have responded to that one a few months ago if you are really following this forum all along.
If you have been following what is on this forum, I am surprised that you finally voiced out after I made this comment in respond to Rev. Wang's interview.
Good to have your response. This is what this forum is for.
Hin, you are such a wonder!
I've been observing what's going on in christiantimes for a while. I'm so much astonished to have seen you, Hin, such a wonder to be existing here. You are such a genius to ruin this Christian forum. And totally I can't fine anyone else better than you to be as a puppy fawning on your master.
Rev. Wang should be shameful as you have declared to be in the same line with him. No evangelical leader will act as you or associate with you.
You are so good at meditating Rev. Wang's reply. But don't you know GH never misquoted Rev. Wang?
Dont's speak something you don't know, otherwise it will expose your own evil will.
It's correct 'paper can't contain fire'. However, you must remember the teaching, 'The tongue also is a fire, a would of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole person, sets the whole course of his life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell'(James 3:6).
I am glad that Rev. Wang moved first
I am glad that Rev. Wang is willing to accept the telephone interview from Christian Times right after the report of IIC is out so that GH can't misquote him anymore like last time.
Eventhough Rev. Wang didn't said anything specific or even make any clear statement but I think the conclusion is very clear. He is in the same line with the IIC and agrees with the observation from the report.
Why would Rev. Wang take this stand? For those who have a little bit of common sense should know.
Stay focus and don't let GH try to distract us anymore.
As Rev. Wang advised that the North American pastors should know about the report. Someone should send it to all the pastors, churches and organizations so that they will know since GH will never put this report on their website as I tried to challenge them (I am sure someone from GH is reading all these comments) to do so.
As a Chinese saying said, "a paper cannot contain fire." GH will be exposed for sure.
