成立十年、致力关注社会风气的明光社，去年在各界教会支持下成功自置物业作办公及聚会之用。经装修后，该社已于上周四（三月二十日）迁入该个位于港铁太子站附近的全新办事处，新址为：旺角洗衣街229-231号永光花园一楼。电话（27684204）及传真（27439780）则维持不变。
（www.christiantimes.org.hk，时代论坛每日快拍，2008.3.26）
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佚名Anonymous 3 / 2008-04-05 08:48:44
I think no need to guess who is who
I think there is no need to guess who is who.
Everyone has there reason to use there name.
Just be respect to their decision.
平心而論 / 2008-04-05 01:14:23
strange 佚名
I suspect 平心而論 = Cheung; and Wai Kee is his twin!To D Law, that is more than a "gang."
A Doctor, please tell me if my above guess is correct.
點解要咁估人？你又知跟佢地嘈o既人唔係一個人變身出o黎？doctor係乜水，會答到呢Ｄ問題？即使真doctor都答唔到啦，你當左佢係神？點解人地永遠係奸o既，你地就永遠係忠o既呢？既然講到無野好講，就應該積下陰德，大家收聲啦。
平心而論 / 2008-04-05 01:09:20
呢句都好唔make sense
Cheung can use some self-reflection. Use his time - which he evidently has much - on some constructive thing instead.I say this sincerely. This is not a reprimand.
乜佢唔係已經講左有好多事關注緊？睇落而家死唔肯收口o既人先係最得閒無野好做。
佚名Anonymous / 2008-04-05 00:43:09
Strange, but
I suspect 平心而論 = Cheung; and Wai Kee is his twin!
To D Law, that is more than a "gang."
A Doctor, please tell me if my above guess is correct.
平心而論 / 2008-04-04 22:48:58
亦都要公平Ｄ
你要人o地相信你寫野o既時候好心平氣和，咁你點解又唔可以咁去諗其他人？就算人地之前曾經有情緒化，都唔等於次次都係咁。主觀同情緒化，唔係某Ｄ人o既專利，要反省就應該一齊去反省。平心而論 / 2008-04-04 22:35:38
情緒唔係罪
點解針對情緒？批評張o既人真係一Ｄ情緒都無？如果無，做乜鬼寫咁多去鬥氣？明光社都有好激氣o既時候啦。就算張有情緒，咁又點？佢話佢有理由，但要遲Ｄ先交代。呢一句個個都當睇唔到。既然未settle，做乜要咁激動去丙佢？仲有，唔好成日講到旁觀者一定會認同你咁，唔知就係唔知。佚名Anonymous / 2008-04-04 22:03:01
Allow me to introduce Cheung/Cheng
Someone here has told Cheng that he is "emotional" and "nit-picking". I wish to paste some of his recent writing here so you readers can take a second look at this person:
...。你整個回應只反映出你主觀幻想我在盲目批評明光社，借故找機會說話。對不起，這些小動作，我不屑去做。我關心的基督教事件，比你想像的複雜和高層次，今天就連某報章也來參考我提供的國際基督教新聞消息（只是他們不會公開acknowledge，當然我也不會透露那些合作關係）。區區明光社，算得是甚麼？至於明光社，我自會光明正大地寫一本書去分析箇中問題（畢竟那不是幾百字可以交代的）。你這小人之心，可以收回。
另外，我有批評明光社，我認為他們有錯，又如何？你可曾了解我提出的理由？多年來我評論過那麼多人，沒有刻意針對某一團體。但唯獨提到明光社就有你這種人跑出來日罵夜罵，把我描黑，自己情緒化卻罵我不冷靜。若要揣測動機，你這些連真實姓名也不敢出的人的動機更要被懷疑。
之前有人因明光社之類的事罵錯我後，會懂得公開道歉。但有這勇氣的人越來越少。
No comment from me is necessary.
John doe / 2008-04-04 21:46:38
whole heartedly agree w Anonymous 3
Cheung can use some self-reflection. Use his time - which he evidently has much - on some constructive thing instead.
I say this sincerely. This is not a reprimand.
佚名Anonymous 3 / 2008-04-04 19:11:29
To Cheng
I personally don't know Cheng and I don't intend to attack you.
I just hope you can be aware of that your most writing were actually full of emotion. And it is usually you that overlooked main points and picked on a few words to make a big deal. Unfortunately, you seems not to be aware of the problem.
This is just an advice. You can ask your friend if you don't believe me.
張國棟 / 2008-04-03 01:09:12
To still another anonymous
Oh, come on. Please don't get into verbal dispute and overlook substantial points. If what they said to me is not scolding, by the same principle, they should not take me as scolding anyone. After all, my presentations, at least most of the time, are more articulate and contain fewer emotional words. Then why are they (maybe just a few) so "passionately" against me?I guess there is not much to be said here. People just overlooked main points and picked on a few words to make a big deal. Too bad.
佚名Anonymous / 2008-04-02 20:30:16
Disagree
I do not think any of the previous anonymous postings scolded brother Cheung. They were passionate to be sure, but not scoldings.
Scold, scoldings, on the contrary, are words which appeared frequently in Cheung's postings. He often accused others for scolding him. I believe this is not helping in any dialog.
張國棟 / 2008-04-02 11:06:18
給不知是誰的人，一個人抑或兩個人
我上篇回應對那佚名的批評，重點是他由始至終看錯我在批評甚麼，他把我的觀點看得太狹窄。現在的回應者（不知是否同一人）不顧這重點，只懂抓住幾個他聽不入耳的字眼來反罵，盡挖苦之能事。究竟此君是想講道理？這表現，豈不正是我回應裡說的，每逢我（或別人）批評某機構就會有人彈出來罵，不講道理，只管描黑批評者？我看已沒有談下去的必要。這位朋友根本就無心冷靜地說話，只是一開始就主觀地討厭人批評某團體，以不斷反罵為己任。
佚名Anonymous 2 / 2008-04-02 04:26:20
Now,
reading what you just wrote in the first paragraph, I have really gained some deep insight into who you are.
I am a new comer to this website. I have read some sensible stuff from you. Now, you have pretty much shattered my image of you. Oh, I know. You probably can't care less!
Yes, perhaps go and publish a book is the right thing to do for people like you! See how many will pay to read it!
佚名Anonymous / 2008-04-02 04:22:07
Why are you...
... again calling people "little man" - siu yan? This behavior has been your demise for years. And you do not even know it!
Shape up, my dear Cheung! Be a true gentleman. You may win more friends THIS WAY!
張國棟 / 2008-04-02 00:05:18
給佚名－－請勿思想狹隘！
唉，原來你現在才察覺我的批評是指向《時代論壇》。我早就寫明是要求《時代論壇》在報導時要小心事實。你整個回應只反映出你主觀幻想我在盲目批評明光社，借故找機會說話。對不起，這些小動作，我不屑去做。我關心的基督教事件，比你想像的複雜和高層次，今天就連某報章也來參考我提供的國際基督教新聞消息（只是他們不會公開acknowledge，當然我也不會透露那些合作關係）。區區明光社，算得是甚麼？至於明光社，我自會光明正大地寫一本書去分析箇中問題（畢竟那不是幾百字可以交代的）。你這小人之心，可以收回。另外，我有批評明光社，我認為他們有錯，又如何？你可曾了解我提出的理由？多年來我評論過那麼多人，沒有刻意針對某一團體。但唯獨提到明光社就有你這種人跑出來日罵夜罵，把我描黑，自己情緒化卻罵我不冷靜。若要揣測動機，你這些連真實姓名也不敢出的人的動機更要被懷疑。
之前有人因明光社之類的事罵錯我後，會懂得公開道歉。但有這勇氣的人越來越少。
佚名Anonymous / 2008-04-01 22:47:04
各界教會支持下
各界教會支持下 is only a plain and polite way of saying "thank you" to the supporters. Do you really want them to say: "After struggling hard and long, and getting ourselves deeply into debt, we finally announce the opening of our new office...", EVEN IF THIS IS TRUE????
Come on! The announcement was made afterall NOT by Ming Kwong, but by ChristianTimes!!! Are you taking aims even at ChristianTimes???
You are again making this into such a BIG and personal thing, all because it had to do with "that society!!!"
My humble advice to you, brother: You should continue to fight the good fight in your eyes. Choose your options to voice your views.
張國棟 / 2008-04-01 04:10:36
奈何
我都知道在這網站再說任何批評明光社的話是沒有好下場的。但我上帖只是說，報導要根據事實。若有人不滿這些言論，正確態度豈不是查證那報導講的是否事實？若不肯查證就說不喜歡聽到某類說話，這不似是理性和冷靜的態度。佚名Anonymous / 2008-04-01 02:22:23
Same tune...
... by the same person! I am tired to hear the harping.張國棟 / 2008-03-31 02:29:44
請停止不實的報導！
「去年在各界教會支持下成功自置物業作辦公及聚會之用」這是十分誤導甚至失實的，根本沒有「各界教會」在支持。我對《時代論壇》多月來一直在報導明光社購買新辦公室時只管唱好，不顧事實，十分不滿。我的理由是甚麼？在將出版的有關明光社的拙著《論盡明光社》裡，我會詳細解釋。我無興趣在網上這裡浪費時間：一，與不講理的人爭執，二，即使是與講理的人說了，這裡的低點擊率使這些對話變得無價值，仍有大量信徒完全被蒙在鼓裡。我只會在書裡交代，向全港市民說出來。
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