荷蘭一位教牧最近推出自傳，表明自己是「無神論」教牧，該書迅即打入當地暢銷榜第三位。
該位名叫亨特克斯（Klaas Hendrikse）的牧師，已當牧師二十年。他在書中表示自己愈來愈相信神不存在，但他仍可與「神」對話：「於我而言，神不存在並非信仰上的障礙而是預設條件。」他認為「神」不是一件存在著的神聖物體，而是人與人之間的對話和關係，例如說到「我不放棄你」，他認為那種努力實現這句話的關係就是「神」。
傳媒形容這位不信神的牧師好比一位當屠夫的素食者。荷蘭教會協會總幹事柏拉塞（Bas Plaisier）批評亨特克斯已將教義視為垃圾，但他強調教會不會採取法律或建制上的行動，因為這些不是教會的作風，而且也不會有效：「現在我們要做的是宣講更多真實的個人見證。」
（取材國際合一新聞社）
（www.christiantimes.org.hk，時代論壇每日快拍，2007.12.21）
Is atheism theology???
Calling atheism a branch of theology is stretching it too much. By defintion, atheism is the denial of any deity. It does not allow or consider the possibility/feasibility of gods (God or any god). It should belong only in the realm of "religion", not theology.
Am I demonizing atheism? If by that is meant I spoke ill (or had hatred in my mind) towards atheism, I am not. I consider atheism a fool's effort.
Atheism has no scientific basis. Science is rather helpless in either proving or disproving God. Science can only point me towards the possibility of a God. It can neither prove or disprove God (in a natural science way).
Furthermore, atheism's rational basis (logical basis) is also weak, much weaker than that for theism, but I will not go into it now.
As to "practical atheism", whether it is the elevation of Self to the status of God (or a god), I have no quarrel. To me, practical atheism means simply "atheism in practice."
There are few true atheists. Most people are agnostics who do not really know what their position implies. True agnostics must, by definition, be also true and humble seekers after truth. They will be forever thirsty for truth, including the truth of the existence of God.
兩種「無神論」
讓我們嘗試區分(1)神學理論上的無神論及(2)以自己為神的實踐性無神論。
無需妖魔化所有無神論。
神學理論上的無神論是對真理的追尋與思考，不可怕。
以自己為神的實踐性無神論，自己進佔上帝原來的位置，貶低他人的價值，不理會他人的褔祉，目中只有自己的權力與利益，才可怕。
www.armbell.com/liberalhk/viewtopic.php?t=152&mforum=liberalhk
Read about Antony Flew...
Antony Flew Abandons Atheism
Former Atheist Believes in God on Basis of Argument to Design
Godless Christianity is nonsense
This talk about godless Christianity is nonsense. Hendrikse’s play with words (and definitions) is at best sensationalism on the ridiculous, and at worst another money scheme much like Dan Brown’s Da Vinci Code. A renegade “pastor” has now become a guru for the godless. Don’t glorify yourself, Hendrikse. You are an apostate plain and simple.
Don’t be fooled by the like of this guy. The namesake of “vegetarian butcher” is accurate since he is willing to do the killing eventhough he is adamant about eating what he kills.
Or is he??????
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披著羊皮的狼, 本質上是狼, 並不是羊.
同樣, 披著教牧身份的無神論者, 本質上是無神論者, 並不是教牧.
比喻不大恰當
作為一位屠夫, 殺生是他的工作, 並沒有要求他本身要吃葷.
但作為一個教會牧師, 除了牧養信眾外, 相信上帝也是他個人從事教牧工作的先決條件. 所以這個比喻不大恰當.
雖然事實上有不少所謂牧者, 心底裏並不信神, 表面上是服侍上帝, 實質是托神食福, 謀取私利而已, 其實並不符合作為教牧的先決條件.
披著羊皮的狼, 本質上是狼, 並不是羊.
同樣, 無神論的教牧, 本質上是無神論者, 並不是教牧.
Christian Atheism 基督教無神論
最近幾本例如 Richard Dawkins 及 Sam Harris 倡議無神論的全球暢銷書令無神論聲名大噪。Christian Atheism （基督教無神論）也被其他神職人員提出過：http://www.armbell.com/liberalhk/viewtopic.php?t=4666&mforum=liberalhk
學者 Nigel Leaves 則綜合討論了四個可能解決 "The God Problem"（神的問題）的辦法：panentheism（萬有在神論）, non-realism（非真實主義）, grassroots spirituality（草根靈性）, and religious naturalism（宗教自然主義）。這些都已經非常接近無神論。而萬有在神論的代表人物 Spong 是美國聖公會退休主教，非真實主義的代表人物 Don Cupitt 及 Lloyd Geering 都是基督教神學家。可見基督教神學界正在認真考慮無神論的重要性、價值、及意義。
http://www.armbell.com/liberalhk/viewtopic.php?p=20566&mforum=liberalhk#20566
What more is new!
一位當屠夫的素食者, what an accurate assessment!!! I also agree with everything Bas Plaisier said.
This "pastor of the atheists" is merely riding on the crest for fame, and $!
Nothing can surprise me any more!
